Are you angry now?

“My friends at school found the video,” he says, his voice soft, a boy’s voice, not a baby’s. “They think it’s funny. But I don’t remember being that baby. He looks angry.”

The meme evolved. When a politician gave a boring speech, Twitter replied with a GIF of Baby Jhon. When a software update failed, Reddit posted the growl. He became a universal shorthand for: I have had enough of your nonsense. But fame is a heavy spoon to push away.

But the real Baby Jhon is done with soup. He is done with being a symbol. He is in kindergarten, learning to read, struggling with subtraction, and dreaming of becoming a firefighter or, in his words, “a guy who drives the garbage truck with the claw.”

“He taught the world that it’s okay to say no,” Elena says. “Now, we have to teach him that it’s okay to say yes, too.”

It has been five years since the 17-second vertical video shattered every record on social media. The clip, originally titled “Mi niño no quiere la sopa” (My boy doesn’t want the soup), shows a toddler in a high chair. His mother, Elena, holds a spoon of lukewarm vegetable puree. Jhon, with the solemn dignity of a tiny CEO rejecting a merger, looks at the spoon, looks at his mother, and gently—almost politely—pushes it away.